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Art Creation Help


This is a project for you who have a half-finished piece of art that you need help with. And it's also a project for you who like to see artists improve their art with your help.

We welcome all kinds of artists and all kinds of people who want to help. You're just as welcome to submit if you're a professional who wants ideas on what to add to your piece, as if you're a newbie that can't make the stick figure's shadow look right. It doesn't matter if it's a photo manipulation, scanned drawing or something else. But Elftowners generally like fantasy and sci-fi themes the most, of course.

How It Works for Artists



1) Upload your drawing to a wiki-page (You can use the "Upload a folder of images"-button in your house to upload the image-file and it will create the wiki-page for you) and write exactly what you want help with on the page.

2) Go to Art Creation Help Queue and edit that page. Add a link to your art's wiki-page with a short comment about the help needed
Example:
[Wiki-page name for my art@wiki] I can't get the hands right!


3) The Art Creation Moderators will look at it and put it here unless there is a huge queue of people wanting help.

4) Be prepared that the suggestions might sound harsh as many Elftowners don't speak your kind of English or simply are bad at sounding nice even if they are trying to help. No one will be deliberately mean and the critique shouldn't be about rating your art, but what you can change in it. If you're scared about people being mean, then write that, and they will take it easy on you!

5) Upload new versions of the art after getting suggestions! The ones giving suggestions spend time on helping you because they love to see the drawing progress, so this is very important. Easiest is if you upload the new version of the drawing to a new wiki-page and link to that from the first version. Everyone who have commented on it will get notified about the new page then, and we'll get a nice progress series of the drawing.

How It Works for Helpers


a) Have this page on watch. Anyone is welcome to try to help!

b) Read what the artist wants help with, and try to answer that question mainly. Most submitters love any kind of comment on their art though, so unless the artist has been clear on that no other comments are wanted, you can write any kind of nice and helpful comments.

Note 1: This isn't about rating art!
Note 2: Just because you don't like one kind of style, doesn't mean it's bad.

Related wiki-pages

Elftown Tutorials and Tips

Pieces of art that need comments


1054898 I need help getting comfortable with anatomy. Help and pointers? - [NOOOPE]
[Veltzeh]'s Epic battle needs help with action poses and composition!


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2008-11-09 [Hedda]: What would the "finished art page" be? Where we show the last versions of people's drawing? Yes, I think that building such a page, would be nice when we have something to put there.

Advice on critiquing? Do you think anyone will comment if they have to read through 4711 "do":s and "don't":s first? I think it will scare people away, and the ones who need to read it, will not read it anyway.

2008-11-09 [NOOOPE]: I'm working on the how to critique page right now. I think it'd be helpful and prevent a lot of drama. We don't need to use it if you still don't like the idea

2008-11-10 [NOOOPE]: How to Critique


Art critiques are actually very complicated. There's an entire artistic language... books dedicated to how you look at art. People who haven't been to art school, or who haven't studied art criticism somewhere else in their lives really do need some little baby pointers, at least.

I also think a page dedicated to collecting art resources might be cool. I can imagine we'll be telling people over and over what human proportions are, so it'd be nice to have some quick easy links.

2008-11-10 [Chimes]: Like the Photo reference marathon, for example? :P

2008-11-10 [NOOOPE]: http://www.posemaniacs.com/ <- biggy

That'd be good, but there are tons of off elftown things that really rock

2008-11-10 [Chimes]: That is very true.

2008-11-13 [NOOOPE]: Can I edit the page a little? Pwease? Add the wiki for finished art, the one for quick references and the crit guide?

2008-11-14 [Hedda]: But we don't have any finished art yet. And I really think that we should see how this works out before defining how people should do when they help out.

What is the quick references?

2008-11-14 [NOOOPE]: Links to wikis or web sites that have simple tips, like a guide to human proportions, or perspective.... or links like posemaniacs that people could use. I feel like we'll be repeating the same things over and over, like, well, anatomy like I said, so it'd be nice to collect pages we could just throw at 'em instead of go on and on about how many heads tall people are and blah-de-blah.

And would it be useful though to have the finished page prepared so we can use it when there's stuff?

2008-11-14 [Hedda]: But the tips should be placed in Elftown Tutorials and Tips. And then we can link to them.

2008-11-14 [Hedda]: You can of course prepare a page, but it's annoying with links to empty pages. It's like calling people for dinner before the hunt is done.

2008-11-15 [jaraden]: m!, this place sounds mint!!!! brilliant idea and i will definately keep an eye on this page, i love helping others, heck, half the time i'm the one who needs help!!!!

har har

wicked!
seb

2008-11-15 [Nocturnaliss]: This is a very cool idea, M. I'll be watching :3

2008-11-15 [NOOOPE]: I didn't think of this, I'm just helping, heh.

2008-11-15 [Nocturnaliss]: ... my bad XD; I think the invite coming from you got me confused. Sorry 'bout that XD;

2008-11-18 [jaraden]: regardless i'm in... would love to help!

2008-11-24 [Lothuriel]: Finally made it here.

2008-11-25 [jaraden]: i know, took me ages to get here too.. but i have terrible sence of direction and i got lost... ended up at old man Wilson's house two miles that a way....

puffs

2009-04-21 [Alexi Ice]: I've got a question! What if you are looking to employ an artist to make a peice of cover art (for free...)? Is there a wiki for this or...any of you looking for a job? Preferably for not a lot of money...>>

2009-04-21 [NOOOPE]: I'd make something up for like... 5, 10 or 15 bucks depending on how complicated you wanted it.

2009-04-21 [Alexi Ice]: Hm. The legality of this may come into question, so it might be a bad idea. I might just have to wait.

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